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Megan Lavey

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Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:09 pm

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One of our MEs clued the newsroom into this story of a friend of his that was just fired from the Danbury, Conn. newspaper after goofing around with a cutline on a page and it got out on the Internet. It's actually a principle that he just taught me about, and it's a story like this that really drives it home:

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DANBURY, Conn. (AP) – The News-Times has apologized and fired a copy editor who put an offensive caption on its Web page under a photo of a girls' high school soccer team.

The Immaculate High School girls' team was celebrating a goal scored in a championship-clinching win Nov. 5. The newspaper's Web site published a photograph of the jubilant team, but said it was celebrating a teammate's decision to "come out of the closet as a lesbian."

"It was a flagrant, awful violation of every journalistic principle," said Paul Steinmetz, the paper's editor. "It's just embarrassing to us and untenable."
The copy editor, who was not identified, was "goofing around" and didn't realize the caption had gone online, Steinmetz said.

The bogus caption stayed on the Web page for a few hours on Sunday and received a few hundred hits, Steinmetz said. "We couldn't get it off the Web site as fast as we wanted to," he said.

The newspaper, which has a circulation of about 33,000 in western Connecticut, is training more employees to administer its Web site so future errors can be fixed promptly, Steinmetz said.

Although the caption appeared only on the Web site, the newspaper apologized both online and in its print edition. The paper also met with the family and school officials and wrote a letter of apology to the soccer team, Steinmetz said.

Calls seeking comment were left Friday with school officials.

The News-Times is owned by New York-based Ottaway Newspapers, a subsidiary of Dow Jones & Co.


The ME here in Lewiston had this advice share with the staff when he sent around the story and I felt it was also worth sharing with folks here:

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"To make it worse, years ago I supervised this guy in Connecticut, warned him more than once that he was risking his job by fooling around. He was immensely talented and a hard worker, but he thought he could always walk on the edge without falling off. Now he's fallen off, and I doubt he'll ever be able to regain his balance on a newspaper."

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when i saw this headline, i was hoping this was about word---- for being on npd and newsdesigner too much. wishful thinking.
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:38 pm

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A few years ago, a newspaper in southern Ohio ran a cutline under a city-league basketball team group shot that identified one of the five players (the sports editor, who wrote the cut, surely had the intention of finding the kid's name, but used this as a placeholder) as "Some F--ker." The SE was canned.

The lesson: Don't put anything on a page that you wouldn't want to see in print. It's difficult sometimes, as we all have a sense of humor and like to flex it every once in a while, but it's prudent. Save the funny stuff for after deadline.
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Ann Marie Miani

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Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:48 pm

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When I was in college we had a dummy cutline that said "If you are reading this some jackass forgot to write a cutline."

it might have been dumbass, don't really remember. Anywho, it got into the paper on a sports page. I don't rememeber who did it, but I don't think they got fired. But then again, that was college. Mr. Green
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:04 pm

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I learned that lesson in high school ... though I still sometimes make joke cutlines and heads (well, I used to. I don't trust Hermes enough to try that). But I delete them (with gusto) as soon as I show them to someone and get a laugh out of it. Even then I get nervous and keep checking to see if somehow it surved. ha. But yeah ... I heard of a designer who had a little fun with a story about morse code. And of course, that fun resulted in him finding a new job.

Edit: And I need to mention, I will NEVER, EVER do it again. Those days are over. Just too much risk. Not only for myself, but for my paper. Have fun at home if you need to get those kicks. Bad news, and I'm probably lucky.
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Funny phrases as dummy text are a bad, bad idea. At least if xyxyxxyxyxy gets into the paper, nobody will be offended.
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Maybe he has a future career ahead of him at The Onion????
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Back in college, the mock overline we had over our stand alone photos was 'Dumb and Dumber.' We were pretty good about changing it, but the one time that it was thisclose to going to press was when the stand alone photo was of a disadvantage mother and her baby. Thank God we caught it before we sent the page. Anyways, we learned our lesson and the next day we went and changed all the dummy copy in our librarys to x's.
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Douglas E. Jessmer wrote::
A few years ago, a newspaper in southern Ohio ran a cutline under a city-league basketball team group shot that identified one of the five players (the sports editor, who wrote the cut, surely had the intention of finding the kid's name, but used this as a placeholder) as "Some F--ker." The SE was canned.

The lesson: Don't put anything on a page that you wouldn't want to see in print. It's difficult sometimes, as we all have a sense of humor and like to flex it every once in a while, but it's prudent. Save the funny stuff for after deadline.



This has to be some urban journalism legend with the "Some F--ker." When I worked in Idaho I could swear I heard a story that a disgruntled copy editor down the road in Pocatello purposely put that in the paper on a photo of a youth soccer team pic on the last day of his job.
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