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We actually give pretty good play to other stories with our big promos. If you look at the actual space we use, most papers would be using that same promo area for white space.


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Just to weigh in here -- I think anything that makes people stop and look is worthwhile. I think B-field is the most radical (in the literal as well as the slang sense) paper in the country right now. They threw the newspaper design rule book right out the window, and that's a good thing. I like the huge promo, and with the little notch of white space, I have no trouble following down to the centerpiece. If anything, it's the rail that I miss. I'm a big fan of what's going on out there, and it tickles the happy places to see someone who's not afraid to take drastic risks visually and see what happens. Sure, sometimes it doesn't work, but that's what tomorrow's for -- to make up for it.
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Here's an example I found that had so-so news in the white and two blockbusters in the flag. One of these papers sold almost 300 more copies. Can you guess which one? Shrek obviously. The shrek page outsold the Pirates promo which also included a Star Wars promo and two other inside stories. They ran on back-to-back Fridays. Everything else was the same as far as weather, drop times etc.. Trying to find papers you can compare is very hard, this one seem to be close enough. It may be an issue of visual selection. Either way, how things are played in the "pop" zone most likely have some kind of impact on the rack sale.


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See, the thing is, that it's not hard to find papers to compare. And you still haven't given us any numbers. How many papers did you sell on the Pirates day? How many for Shrek? What is your circ average for those two weekends over the past few years (pre and post redesign)? As it's been pointed out before, any circ dept. worth their salt has these numbers at their fingertips. Pick up the damn phone. s---, I'll call tomorrow.
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The Shrek blowout netted 9,831 single copy papers. The previous Friday, which had less of an impact than even the Pirate promo, netted 9,135 single copy sales. I could have easily posted those two in comparison but I wanted to put two blockbusters head to head.
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Thank you that was helpful. and what's the numbers on pirates?
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9575, which also included a Star Wars promo and 2 other news promos.

Someone had mentioned that promos don't increase rack sales. If no one had known this stuff was inside our paper, the total rack sale for that day would have been far less.
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Honestly, I'd say that there's a better chance that the Shrek page sold more because Bakersfield had a much stronger headline to a local story played in the strip.

The thing about these promos is that none of it is unique content. None of it is stuff that you can't find anywhere else. Readers are already being carpet bombed with ads that have virtually the same images in them. Spider Man 3, for example, had a marketing budget of more than $100 million

When we devote the entire top of the page to images like that, we're giving movie studios free access to the most valuable real estate we own.

Here's a little test: would you allow Macy's or Verizon or Bed, Bath and Beyond to buy a strip ad at the top of your page?

No, you wouldn't.

Now, would you run a giant promo to a Macy's or Verizon or Bed, Bath and Beyond story about the start of a sale they were having?

No, you wouldn't.

And why wouldn't you? We can start the bidding at editorial integrity and move up from there. But you'd sure as hell sell them an ad.

What kills me in particular about the Spider Man and Pirates promos is that they give away the review. Ostensibly, we want somebody to pick up the paper to read the review of something we just spent 6 columns by 5 inches implying is a really big deal. But they don't have to!

Maybe more Shrek papers were sold because the promo didn't tell you what the review surely did (as did virtually every other review), that it sucked (which is another matter entirely -- do we promo other things inside the paper we don't think are worth seeing, doing or spending money on?). Although, I'd still argue it's because Bakersfield had unique, interesting content there at the top of the page.



(edit: the "you" I speak of is more you the reader and not Billy specifically -- this isn't about anybody in particular, just a trend in the industry)


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Here's the paper that netted 9135 papers the week before. It includes our biggest case of the year as the lead as well as Catalina Island blazing. Still came up over 600 papers short of our Shrek blowout and over 400 short of the Pirates promo.


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