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Megan Lavey

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Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:40 pm

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Cavendish said everything I was going to say.

To be perfectly honest, 99 percent of the Bakersfield promos shown are papers that I would most likely ignore. Why? Because all of those promos: Shrek, the Simpsons, Pirates, Ratatoulle, etc. are all big national stories that I can find in every single other paper in the U.S. Bakersfield's promos aren't unique. They're just really big. Show me papers that promo their local news like that and I'll be willing to buy into the market.

Yes, those numbers might be up. However, there might also be other factors playing into it. Is Bakersfield's population higher than a year ago? If so, that means more potential newspaper buyers. Where exactly did the increase in rack sales occur - actual racks or places like gas stations, bookstores and the grocery store where you can actually open the paper and see what local news there is?

Yeah, I do love the big Harry Potter promos and things like that. But not all the time. Please, if you're going to drive this down our throats, use papers that consistently show strong local examples, not the hot movie of the week.
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Billy Simkins

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Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:23 pm

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Megan Lavey wrote::
Yeah, I do love the big Harry Potter promos and things like that. But not all the time. Please, if you're going to drive this down our throats, use papers that consistently show strong local examples, not the hot movie of the week.


Everything I've posted is week to week, not year to year.

I didn't want to post our local impact stories because they have strong news content that drive the sales. So even though there are big gains, I can't point at the impact and say it was or wasn't a factor.


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Jim McBee

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Billy, kudos for keeping this alive.

I'm with Weir, the bottom line is we don't really know what the bottom line is with these pages. Why some bright master's candidates at Mizzou or wherever aren't doing the meaningful research instead of us guessing and pontificating is beyond me.

There are some real obvious, basic questions you'd think the newspaper industry would have shown enough interest in to answer a long time ago: What makes an infrequent reader more likely to pull that quarter out of his pocket? Big photos/big heds -- a help or a hindrance? Do readers mark a difference between a promo and a news article? From a purely marketing perspective, can you have too much hype?

One thing I would caution all of us not to do is to judge these questions based on our own preferences and experiences. I think that's part of why newspapers are dying -- we give readers what we like, not what they like. And journalists are just not a broad slice of the pie. We are atypical readers.
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Brian Cubbison

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Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:50 pm

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Most of the Spiderman-type promos are for those fans who will read everything written and are a way of saying "it's in here too."

It wouldn't be impossible for a newspaper to print half of each day's street edition with a dramatic promo and half without, as a better gauge.
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John Zhu

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Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:33 pm

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I agree with the assertion that we don't know for certain how much of the increased sales can be attributed to visual impact of promos. However, I don't think visual impact hurts sales, whereas I do believe weak/bland visual presentation will not help sales.

Consider:
Stronger visual impact = increased likelihood of people noticing the paper on the rack = increased likelihood of people taking the time to look at the paper = increased likelihood of people liking the content of the paper = increased likelihood of people buying the paper

How much more likely? I don't think we can say for certain. But if you're seeing increased sales, you're doing something right. Also, if we say that we don't know for certain what is leading to the increased sales, then how can we say with any more certainty that it's not visual impact?

Jim McBee wrote::
One thing I would caution all of us not to do is to judge these questions based on our own preferences and experiences. I think that's part of why newspapers are dying -- we give readers what we like, not what they like. And journalists are just not a broad slice of the pie. We are atypical readers.


I agree with Jim's point about not assuming others like the same thing you do. However, suggesting that journalists are atypical readers implies that there is such a thing as a typical reader, as if the reading habits can be broken down into just two groups: journalists and non-journalists. The fact is that the readership is infinitely diverse, and so are their reading preferences and habits. If journalists' reading habits aren't typical, then whose are? Doctors? Construction workers? Cops? Students? And of course, within each of those groups lies even more diversity.

For instance, we talk about courting "young readers" as if they all fall under one face and one set of habits. Walk onto any college campus or into any high school, and you'll see that this is not the case. You'll see that they are marked more by how they are different than how they are alike -- and that they embrace their individuality -- and that difference is reflected in the wide range of reading habits and preferences. Yet, here are newspapers, trying to select content by focus groups and telling an individual, "This is was what people who are about your age and income bracket say you like." Quite frankly, it's a bit insulting. IMHO, the Internet is successful not because it gives readers more of what they like, but rather because it gives them EVERYTHING and allows them to pick and choose from infinite amount of information and consume the few that interests them. It's something that any medium with a limited amount of space cannot compete with.
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Kevin Coughlin

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Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:19 pm

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VERY nice design portfolio, Billy. It certainly has MY attention...just like your paper's front when Bonds hit his 756th HR. ESPN couldn't stop showing Bakersfield's front page enough...surprisingly more than the hometown SF Examiner
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Jim McBee

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John Zhu wrote::
(S)uggesting that journalists are atypical readers implies that there is such a thing as a typical reader, as if the reading habits can be broken down into just two groups: journalists and non-journalists. The fact is that the readership is infinitely diverse, and so are their reading preferences and habits. If journalists' reading habits aren't typical, then whose are? Doctors? Construction workers? Cops? Students? And of course, within each of those groups lies even more diversity.

For instance, we talk about courting "young readers" as if they all fall under one face and one set of habits. Walk onto any college campus or into any high school, and you'll see that this is not the case. You'll see that they are marked more by how they are different than how they are alike -- and that they embrace their individuality -- and that difference is reflected in the wide range of reading habits and preferences.

Maybe there isn't a typical reader; but we have institutional blind spots. Here's an analogy: Most commercial software gets a lot of usability and beta-testing before it goes live. What happens when that research isn't done? You get CCI* -- software that sucks to use because of the engineers' blind spots.

*I've never used CCI, but I've heard enough bitching about it to get the idea.
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Rob Weir

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Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:00 pm

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Jim McBee wrote::
Billy, kudos for keeping this alive.

I'm with Weir, the bottom line is we don't really know what the bottom line is with these pages. Why some bright master's candidates at Mizzou or wherever aren't doing the meaningful research instead of us guessing and pontificating is beyond me.


Good point. It needs a regression analysis.

Unfortunately, most of our new master's students are coming into the magazine and convergence fields. Not many do a master's with a newspaper design emphasis. (The newspaper master's students tend to want to write.) But it would be ideal to try to scare somebody up. It could make an interesting project for someone who's bright. (And many of our master's candidates are bright.)
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Billy Simkins

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Well, I got more numbers from our circulation dept. My desk is a complex mess of papers. Anyway, here's another illustration.

Our Spiderman blowout sold 10,102 papers at the racks, almost 600 more copies than the previous Friday and almost 1000 more than the following Friday. It only came up 135 papers shy of our biggest story of the year, the Brothers verdict which sold 10,237.


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Mark A. Dodge Medlin

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That's good to know, but as several people have pointed out, the unanswered question is why? On the day of your big Spidey promo, you also had a "CALIFORNIAN EXCLUSIVE" with a big, bold headline that said "SUSPECTED OF MURDER."

While your promo probably didn't hurt rack sales, your high-impact centerpiece almost surely helped them.
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